Round 1 Sao Paulo - Sun Jan 19, 2020

Discussion in 'F1 1991 - Full Race Distance' started by John vd Geest, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    The race length has been adjusted from 93 to 90 minutes.

    With a formation/standing start, the clock will start running when the race actually starts at the green light.
    So, there will be a formation lap first. At the end of the formation lap you park your car in the red square on the grid and wait for the green light to go racing.
     
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  2. Andrew Harper

    Andrew Harper Pro Driver

    I'm only joking around but looking at the times on the server....did the track change or are some of you missing out corners!? lol

    Admittedly I haven't run any laps yet, I've been trying to get rid of my bronchitis and it was making me difficult to concentrate without coughing every ten seconds. So I know these cars had qualifying tyres, however you are nearly ten seconds faster than the lap times at the time. haha.

    I'm just trying to think of any corners that were changed since the mid 90's but in any case, well done as those are great times :)

    1990 Brazilian Grand Prix
    Fastest Lap Qualifying
    Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda) 1:17.277
    Fastest lap Race
    Gerhard Berger (McLaren-Honda) 1:19.899

    1991 Brazilian Grand Prix
    Fastest Lap Qualifying
    Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda) 1:16.392
    Fastest lap Race
    Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault) 1:20.436

    1992 Brazilian Grand Prix
    Fastest Lap Qualifying
    Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault) 1:15.703
    Fastest lap Race
    Riccardo Patrese (Williams-Renault) 1:19.490
     
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  3. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Good info. Actually, the 1991 cars in this mod go a lot faster.
     
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  4. Ken Jagger

    Ken Jagger Administrator Staff Member Donator

    The ASR Dev team seem to have a history of making mods which are much faster than their RL versions. Check out the comments in STEAM Workshop about their F3 mod which is exactly the same.
     
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  5. Andrew Harper

    Andrew Harper Pro Driver

    Thanks for the info Ken, yeah not a complaint in any way at all. These cars are a blast.

    Well I did a few hours in the LMP3 Ligier last night (that thing has an evil torque curve! lol) and then did a quick twenty minutes in the Ferrari on the server.

    These cars have huge amounts of grip, the Ligier LMP3 feels like a bunking bronco in comparison! haha. You can hammer the throttle pretty much anywhere and the thing just sticks.

    I'm not quick (I'm in the 12's if I remember) but the car is a lot of fun and reminds me so much of my races in the original Grand Prix game.

    I'll do a bit of work on setup but @John vd Geest is spot on, the default setup is pretty nice. Just need to play with gear and wing levels for each circuit I think.

    I would imagine the area where I'm losing time is probably under braking. I guess I'm not braking late enough and hard enough. I've always driven where I brake slightly earlier and try and carry the speed through the corner, which doesn't always work with cars like this.

    No worries though, a great fun car and if I finish I'll be happy with that :)
     
  6. Henri Miettinen

    Henri Miettinen Pro Driver Donator

    If someone kind would tell me how long soft tires will last? Is it 2 or 3 stops or more? If more I think to race with hard tires. I am too lazy to practice so much to get tire tests done. :D
     
  7. Pablo Finotti

    Pablo Finotti Pro Driver Donator

    Look, John, wouldn't be better to set the race to 71 laps, like the real thing, instead of 90 minutes?
    Based on what I've seen in the server, at the current pace, we'll do like 75 laps...
     
  8. Johnny Gutierrez

    Johnny Gutierrez Pro Driver

    I was running lap times in the 1:12 and thought to myself, "Dang i'm fast!" Then I looked at the people running in the 08's. Now it's, dang I'm slow but I feel so fast haha. We'll see how this race goes. :)
     
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  9. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Thanks for your suggestion, but it will stay at 90 minutes for consistency over all event.
     
  10. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    The way I drive, softs will last for 50 liters give or take. I would have to come in 3 times.
     
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  11. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    But that's not the problem. The modders atempted to re-create these cars with a lot of realism. Also on the durability of the engine. I have blown a few engines in practise already because of too fast downshifting or mishandling the gearbox. It's not an arcade car. If anyone can drive for 20 minutes without blowing the engine, they can also make 90 minutes.
     
  12. Denis Gorelov

    Denis Gorelov Pro Driver

    Sorry mates. Sunday ill be outside city and cant race. Next race ill be in
     
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  13. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Did you un-register yourself from the complete series (all events)?
    You are not at any event list anymore.
    You should only un-register from the event that you can't do.
     
  14. Denis Gorelov

    Denis Gorelov Pro Driver

    Im sorry for my stupidity, but i cant find how i can register to seria but unregister for race, so ill just be off for Brazilia. Sorry
     
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  15. Paulo Lima

    Paulo Lima Pro Driver

    Well, these races will be a learning curve for me..
    To add to the difficulties you just pointed out, my brother while racing in some league, our t300rs made a loud noise and since then i noticed that it has almost no forcefeedback in the middle..
    I take the opportunity to ask if this ever happened to any of you guys

    Back to the subject..
    Never ran more than 10m with the car, but i'll try to do a 30minutes stint to see what happens

    John: when you broke your engine, how much boost were you using? Will boost 8 last? Will one have to use boost 5 or less so that the engine lasts all 90m?
     
  16. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    I've broken them on boost 7 and 10. The amount of boost plays a factor, but the evil is in how you use the gearbox.
    If you downshift fast like it's an F1 2019 car, it will break. If you use the gearbox respectfully and let the rev's go down as they should, it's not a problem.
     
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  17. Ken Jagger

    Ken Jagger Administrator Staff Member Donator

    How to unregister from a race.jpg
     
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  18. Mac Shepherd

    Mac Shepherd Pro Driver

    Anyone have any setup tips for this track or even a base setup? Struggling to find any more time but the car feels pretty good.
     
  19. Rob Milliken

    Rob Milliken Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Race Day Password is set on the Champ Page ! Good Luck All ! :D
     
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  20. Henri Miettinen

    Henri Miettinen Pro Driver Donator

    Sorry guys, can't race today.
     
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